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Zman , February 12th, 2011, 8:33 pm


I don't like Rouge.

I mean I really despise her. There's no reason for her to exist as a character. She's nothing but blatant fan service (or as blatant as fan service can get for a kids game anyways.)

She's like some sort of sick Frank Miller interpretation of female Sonic characters. She wears an outfit designed to accentuate her bat-cleavage, speaks with an overtly sexy tone and is obsessed with gathering shiny things. She presents herself as nothing but a collection of "dirtier" female stereotypes rolled up into a character and dumbed down for a children's game.

That being said, she's still a Sonic character. As much as it pains me not to have her ground into a bloody paste upon her first appearance, I promised myself I'd be respectful of canon characters.




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Blitz3124 , February 12th, 2011, 8:38 pm

um,
is it just me, or does the 2nd-4th panels of rouge look a little...off?


Dregan , February 12th, 2011, 8:38 pm


It makes me think, with all her government links, which she never really just tried to get clearance enough to retrieve the Emerald. I mean, it's a source of great power - it wouldn't be hard trying to convince the Government to take it for her.


typholeon90 , February 12th, 2011, 8:46 pm


the following comment is based on a popular french gamer said in one of his youtube video's.

rouge is just anothers useless sonic characters.


Afrohawkman , February 12th, 2011, 8:50 pm


Y'know when ya put it that way Zman, Rouge is a pretty pointless character in general. She's not a liable love interest for Knuckles, she literally shows up out of nowhere (the same can be arguably said for Amy and Cream but at least they sorta had reasons to actually become canon and their characters are at least consistent), and it's obvious they tried combining the "sly spy" with "whore" stereotypes for women. I could say she was a "spy" if she actually was good at her job and EVERYBODY DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW SHE WAS A SPY, and I could say she was a "whore" if she actually did less than bloody tease and used that sex appeal to actually do something.

...Who is she even trying to impress? Who the hell visits that club of hers (do they visit for the bat-boobs)? How did she even get it? Why (and how) did she even end up working for G.U.N. in the first place? Who designed that outfit (I have a lot of questions for that person, both in real life and in Sonic canon)? There are so many questions surrounding this useless character that everyone sees her as a "mysterious hot spy" but she's just a character with little development and no sense.

Honestly I have no idea what Sega was thinking creating a character like that considering the Sonic series is an "E for Everyone" type of series, but it's obvious they weren't thinking.

Cool comic though. :D


Klonoacomics , February 12th, 2011, 8:51 pm

typholeon90
i agree with this guy the only one that i can actually live with sonic tails knukles shadow and amy maybe cream


kharmachaos , February 12th, 2011, 8:55 pm


To contrast all the negative here on this page, I'm going to throw my own opinion out there: I like her as a character. I wish they hadn't made her into a complete swank or a jerk(from newer games and comics) of course, But honestly, I like her. I like that she has a mischievous spirit and doesn't get carted away by kidnapping(as almost every other female seems to be) and that she isn't one to be messed with. And honestly, I like the little thievery obsession thing. ;)


Kuragari , February 12th, 2011, 9:51 pm


Well, to be perfectly frank, I'm sure if you analyse any character from any series your bound to find something wrong with them. And ya can't please everybody.

I will state that, of the many secondary/minor characters, she probably is one of the more developed (though not neccessarily saying she is well developed).

Personally, rather than hate Rogue, I would instead work on trying to improve on and develop a better character for her. I've read a few* decent Rogue fanfics out there that work to make Rogue more than what she seems on the surface.

Also, for the E-Everyone comment, it might have been their attempt to try and draw some of the hormone ridden boys into the game (she may not make a big apperance, but she shows up and its enough for them)

I personally have no problem with Rogue in any comic, provided the author doesn't specifically portray her as the way Sega normally does.

*few being a very, very relative term.


Chris the wolf , February 12th, 2011, 10:24 pm


Rouge doesn't have green eyes so there's still hope on the upcoming disaster...


SolaratheHedgehog , February 12th, 2011, 10:41 pm


Rouge's eyes are wonky in panels 2-4


sonicstar4453 , February 12th, 2011, 10:45 pm

Booyah!
It's the Bat!
@Solara:Yesh, they are, but maybe it's just the muzzle causing an illusion.


Mach , February 13th, 2011, 3:30 am


I agree that Rouge is a waste of space for a series like this. But shes not the only one who was created to keep the character design people in a job. Most of the post-adventure characters arnt needed. Shadows is probably the only one that can really be justified and to help the series move.


Arc Impulse , February 13th, 2011, 4:04 am


Even more useless of Rouge is when you consider how every part of herrole(except the love interest to Knuckles)can be filled by a more popular character that they already had, Nack The Weasel/Fang The Sniper. He's an undercover mercenary and no one actually knows about his true intentions so for all we know he really could be with the government and just actually be good at his job, and we defenitely know that he's already a pro thief and unlike Rouge he actually again manages to succeed half the time. I feel we'd be much better off bringing him back and dropping her.

As to the argument that all the characters Adventure and after rather suck, let's not jump to conclusions... Shadow is certainly a good character for use, to keep around. Not saying though that Sega has used him properly (every game same story, Shadow wakes up from some coma and/or is with the government whom is also hunting him down and he has amnesia and everyone namely the villains seem to know more about him than he knows about himself). This led to one of the few good points in Sonic 06, the fact that they didn't do the same damn thing with Shadow yet again. And that's what I mean how he's good for use and to keep around. Games like Sonic Battle he's good to have in, maybe a major game once in awhile, but not every game. Afterall, Shadow also has a habit of dying in these so when he's brought back so often it defeats the purpose of his tragic death turning him almost into a Mary Sue.(almost)

Blaze I actually find to be extremely good as a character, and handled very well as well. Her design is good, character consistent, and unlike most of the other extra Sonic characters that are made, she isn't brought into every single game, she's only brought in when it makes sense to have her in.(before you argue Sonic 06, there she deals with time travel and being sealed off with Iblis and all so it's fully possible since time and space are so strongly connected that she was from Sonic's universe just in the future, and was teleported to another dimension, Iblis caused her to recieve the burn scars she supposedly has all this could have somehow led to her having amnesia since lord knows Sonic characters get amnesia on an almost constant basis)

That's all I can think of though. I didn't say a lot of the newer generation Sonic characters were good, just that not all of them are bad (they just don't seem to properly handle them is all)


Martin Prower , February 13th, 2011, 4:30 am


@Arc Impulse: Nack was banned from the games for being too vamperic


G.B.A , February 13th, 2011, 4:58 am


Then again, Rouge isn't the only pointless character in the Sonic series.


Supersheep64 , February 13th, 2011, 6:19 am


I would have to agree with all of you, Sega has a habit of re-using characters in situations where there is no need for them. However this doesn't mean they are useless, if Sega just put a little efort in, they could make ANY of these tag-alongs relevent.

I mean look at knuckles, he's a cool char but 80% of the games he apears in, he either A: gets fooled into fighting against sonic.
or B: follows Sonic around like a sick puppy without saying or doing anything relevent for the entire freaking game.

whereas in games like sonic chronicles Knuckles is one of the most important charactors; he doesn't like working with Sonic, he dosn't like the way Sonic does things, then he almost goes out and betrays him except for his duty to the master emerald.
Now why can't sega put more effort in like that?

probably because the games sell as well either way.

But we, the fans, now that's a different matter. For us who make these comics, the story is what counts, not the money. Therefore it's almost a duty to ourselves, and each other, to try and add depth to the lame dregs Sega has thrown us, to trully make decent comics.

I thank you.


Supersheep64 , February 13th, 2011, 6:20 am


.....Ranting about Sonic games sure beats doing homework huh?


metaboo , February 13th, 2011, 6:37 am


I agree with everyone saying that rouge is a dumb character... but there aren't very many insults that CAN be added....

@Thedarklamp: Shadow didn't stay as a SA2B exclusive character, he was in most sonic games after that, and why wouldn't he? according to the official sega poll, shadow is the second most popular character, sonic being the first.


Striffen Cloud , February 13th, 2011, 6:42 am


^Yes. Yes it does. I actually almost forgot I had a project senior year because I was online ranting about stuff that had no meaning.


Arc Impulse , February 13th, 2011, 7:22 am

@Martin Prower
Terrible argument on Sega's part then, cause I happen to be someone who does their research is big in the English department when I want to be, and after looking up vampiric, Nack doesn't qualify as vampiric under any of the meanings. Only thing is if you went on the stereotype of sharp fang like teeth, but every character has those. Hell, Rouge herself has them and they stick out there! Most of the Sonic characters they just hide their teeth, despite it going against the original artwork, so could surely do the same for Nack since afterall, the current designs completely ignore anything of the 90s designs.
Also on the note of looking up the meaning of vampiric, well what'dya know? Rouge ironically and of course fits the bill perfectly for one of the few meanings to vampiric!
a person who preys ruthlessly upon others; extortionist
a woman who unscrupulously exploits, ruins, or degrades the men she seduces
See vampire bat
a person who preys mercilessly upon others, such as a blackmailer
Name me a time when Rouge's role has never been to basically seduce, stalk and attack Knuckles, abuse the men around her that she manipulates...and for the love of god above all else prove that she isn't a bat.
Until someone can give me some strong solid evidence as to how Rouge isn't vampiric, I'm now gonna hold a deep seething hatred of Rouge for eliminating the existence of one of the best Sonic characters under false charges(like it matters much, it's an opinion and all it'll mean is that I'm gonna be a jerk when I see Rouge. :P)


Lord Enigma , February 13th, 2011, 7:47 am


Lot's Rouge hate around here. Well she is pretty unnecessary. Though I still prefer her over the rest of G.U.N.


Supersheep64 , February 13th, 2011, 7:51 am


@Lord Enigma
Yeah G.U.N suck.
When have they EVER done anything usefull?


Zmanwarrior , February 13th, 2011, 11:45 am


I actually prefer a game with a good plot. That was my problem with Sonic 4 (OH GOD HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH SONIC 4) is that it had no plot. Colors on the other hand was decent in that department, if a bit silly. That's also the reason I'm actively hunting for Chronicles. The problem is that since Sega's pulling pretty much every Sonic game made between SA2 and Sonic 4 off of the shelves, I'm probably only going to be able to find it used.


Ancient (Guest) , February 13th, 2011, 5:28 pm


You se? It was rouge.


Darkblane257 , February 13th, 2011, 6:45 pm

Darkblane257
I know that robot its from metal slug 5.


Ceviana , February 14th, 2011, 3:55 pm


I actually think Rouge is pretty cool.

She was the only indepentant female char until Blaze came out. (I'm sorry, but if you think Amy and Cream are good at being independant you're kinda stupid.)

She's also a decent love interest for Knuckles, and Sonic Team needed to make more female Sonic chars.

While her appearance is pretty... um... unnecessary, she was a good character when she came out. Huge lack of females, and there still is.

Come to think of it, Rouge is my fave char, ever since she came out, and I still like her. AND BEFORE YOU SAY I LIKE HER FOR HER APPEARANCE, LOOK AT MY PROFILE UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND. 2 hints there.

Blaze was the next good female, and then Shade. Amy is annoying, don't get me started on Cream, I like Marine, but she's pointless... um... what's another female game characer in the Sonic Universe that people still remember?


Ancient (Guest) , February 15th, 2011, 2:08 pm


^
What about Cosmo, sally and, to a certain extent, bunnie and Julie-su?

Also, agreeing with you all the way with "More female sonic characters". If they made a female villain that would be even better. In fact, they need more villains overall. he only good ones I can think of are Robotnik, Lord Ix, Mephiles and Finitevus.


Irene the SeedrianRabbit , February 15th, 2011, 3:58 pm


There's also Scourge and Metal Sonic. ;)
Then there's Robo Knuckles, Nack, the Tails doll, sometimes that stupid GUN soldier (whythefrigdoesheevenexist), Black Doom - need I say more?...

.......
BUT WHERE ARE ALL DA GODDAMN FEMALES!?! D:<


Hero of Comedy , February 15th, 2011, 4:17 pm


In panels 2-4, she looks like she's crying.


Ancient (Guest) , February 16th, 2011, 10:25 am


^
Cosmo: OK, she's quite old.

Sally, Bunnie, Julie-su: Still Exist in the archie comics.


Ceviana , February 16th, 2011, 10:07 pm


@Ancient - I meant female game characters. Cosmo, Sally, Bunnie and Julie Su aren't game chars.

@Irene - I KNOW RIGHT
Lien-Da from the comics? Isn't she a villan? And Anti Sally? And Anti Females? They're villans.

They aren't game chars, though.


jtubbesi , February 17th, 2011, 4:22 pm


Rouge is just the Sonic conter-part to Selena Kyle aka Catwoman from DC comics. Most of her negative qualities come from bad writing.


Ancient (Guest) , February 18th, 2011, 10:35 am


@Ceviana

Well, there's Tikal, Wave and Maria.

Oh, and that princess from soleanna. Forgot her name.

Then there's also Tiara Boobowski and honey the cat, though they were cancelled characters. (Along with Madonna)

@Irene
Robo knux and tails doll weren't good villains. What made metal sonic good is that he came away from his programming, and became his own villain, and to me, isn't even reconisable as an impersanation of sonic any more (In the same way as scourge).
I don't like GUN. UNIT is better, anyway.
Black doom: Average. I've seen way better alien overlords. *Coughridleycoughdavroscough*

@Ceviana again
Lien-da: OK, she's a good character.
The antis: the anti-sonic concept was good, but I think the anti-freedom fighters were a step too far. I mean, anti-robotnik and miles were good, but apart from that, they were just there as scourge's minions.
AND WHEN THE FUCK WILL WE SEE ANTI-SHADOW


PerfectPhoenix , February 18th, 2011, 3:25 pm


@Ancient: All true, and the princess of Solena or whatever is Princess Elise.

Yeah, I don't like Rouge, but I don't hate her either. She is sort of annoying to me, and in Sonic X, I couldn't really stand her. It's why I rarely (Well, I haven't so far) use her in my comics.


Ceviana , February 18th, 2011, 11:52 pm


@Ancient - Wave is good. Tikal isn't independent, really. Maria's dead.
Honey and Tiara don't count.

YEAH WHERE THE FREAK IS OUR ANTI SHADOW
ANTI SILVER
ANTI MARINE YEAH

@Phoenix - Well you could still put her in comics, just make her seem likable to you. That's what I do.
And Sonic X was retarded. Except for Cosmo.


Ancient (Guest) , February 19th, 2011, 3:52 am


@Ceviana
Yeah, season 3 was good.

And in the case of tikal and maria, the fact that they sacrificed their own lives to seal away a water god and save their best friend (Respectively) I am pretty sure that would count as independent.

And yes, we DO need anti-shadow.
Due to what I've seen of the upcoming sonic universe ark, anti-silver may not be too far away.
And the last one...
...
...
...
...Why?


blitz5000 , February 19th, 2011, 6:17 pm


Rouge isn't really a bad character. Yeah, some games would have been better without her, but she's still a good character. Just that SEGA didn't use her right. She was pretty useless in Sonic Chronicles though. I can't even remember how you meet her.


Ancient (Guest) , February 20th, 2011, 4:30 am


^
Near the beginning of the game, you meet her in G.U.N.'s headquarters, as their agent.


blitz5000 , February 20th, 2011, 11:11 am


Oh yeah...


Ceviana , February 20th, 2011, 9:08 pm


@Ancient - Tikal and Maria kinda... I guess. But Tikal, not too much, so I wouldn't count her as the first independant female.

@Blitz - Yup yup. Although I liked her in Sonic Chronicals.


Irene the SeedrianRabbit , February 22nd, 2011, 4:39 pm


Lol. It's funny how even the awesome Bioware writers didn't care if Rouge even existed. xD


manic lopunny , April 26th, 2011, 5:10 pm


i hate rouge!
here's why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwgSCwQz0ME

and if you laugh, i'll OBLITERATE you!


SilverDruid , December 4th, 2012, 3:08 pm

Can someone...answer me this?
Ignoring the fact that there are a lot of negative things about Rouge, mostly due to my fellow dudes whom may or may not have pent-up frustration from this bat's endless teasing.
Either none of you have addressed this issue (or maybe you have and I'm too lazy to look for it) of her "obsession" in collecting the Chaos Emeralds in particular, either be cause you think its not worth mentioning or...you secretly share such an obsession to gather items of power...and do nothing but GOOGLE THEM! I mean, for just one crazy moment, Rouge gather ALL Emeralds...then what? There never address what she'd do with them (other than that ridiculous notion...that she whats to make jewelry with them). Any have an answer?






p.s. My first comment made the page I was commenting on...go white, therefore blocking the text. B) My SOUL is safe!


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